with us now is david callahan and justin safies with the romney campaign. did senator schumer help or hurt the chances of a deal? david, let me start with you. >> i don't know whether he helped or hurt it, but he's making a good point. i mean, the other thing that schumer said was he'll willing to talk about a grand bargain. he's willing to talk about cuts to entitlements, but there has to be more revenue on the table. the democrats are not going to roll over and let, you know, the solution to this budget deficit be that it mainly in cuts that hurt the middle class and not raise taxes on the rich at all. that's just unacceptable. >> justin, where do you suspect the marker will be from the conservative standpoint as we begin negotiations on the fiscal cliff? >> well, i think the marker probably will be on tax cuts and not wanting to -- excuse me, on tax increases and not wanting to raise taxes while we still have unemployment that's still way to high in the united states. i think senator schumer hurt the process because it's typical washington gamesmanship t